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scrooge
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 Posted - 05/20/2009 : 03:55:31
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| I have a water well with submersible pump 158ft deep,,I alos have a 1500gal,cistern tank for water emergency problems..when either well OR cistern is pumps running (They are wired not to run both at same time) my water inside the home comes out in paulsating streams,(surges) ,3 year old well and cistern...Just started doing this about 3 weeks ago..Regulator or whatever its called that sits inside the well casing about 5ft down clicks on-off way to many times and quickly,for some reason. It was replaced with new one but still doing the same thing.. I am no electrician... |
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cow_rancher
USA
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Posted - 05/20/2009 : 05:53:38
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Check your pressure tank, sounds like the bladder is broken and it's waterlogged.
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scrooge
USA
36 Posts |
Posted - 05/20/2009 : 06:21:23
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| I was afraid you were gonna say that......Water pressure tank is underground,I have no basement or heated building out here in the boondocks..... Is that something that can be repaired or do I have to replace the whole tank??Thank you for your reply...... |
Edited by - scrooge on 05/20/2009 06:22:41 |
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cow_rancher
USA
1111 Posts |
Posted - 05/20/2009 : 07:46:02
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It's a pull and replace item, you may want to build a vault out of cinder block to make that job easier next time.
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scrooge
USA
36 Posts |
Posted - 05/20/2009 : 09:11:53
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| Is that an every 3 year thing I'll have to do?? Or could the next one last longer or shorter period of time?? Again I THANK YOU very much for your reply.... |
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cow_rancher
USA
1111 Posts |
Posted - 05/21/2009 : 14:07:32
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The x-perts at one of the other forum sites that want you to buy a valve to reduce your water cycling, say that the new tanks last only an average of 7 years. I have a low yielding well and use relay timers to limit run time and therefore add multiple times more cycles to the pump and tank, I have over 10 years on a cheap Sears bladder tank... I think the real answer is between 10 and 20 years.
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watertanks.com
USA
83 Posts |
Posted - 05/21/2009 : 15:42:09
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Cow, he isn't asking how long the pump will last, but I believe how often he should drain the bladder, and the truth is you should probably do it every one or two years, fully drain the tank, check the valves and refill it.
James Opferman
Pump and Tank Tech
American Tank Company
http://www.watertanks.com/
707-535-1415 (direct phone)
707- 535-1465 (Fax)
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scrooge
USA
36 Posts |
Posted - 05/22/2009 : 05:46:18
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| Confused here... I was thinking I had to buy a new pressure tank to fix the problem every 3yrs or so..Or is there a better special pressure tank to buy that would last longer?? With the tank being underground I would hope I wouldn't have to do this every 3yrs.or so...... |
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Arlos
USA
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Posted - 05/22/2009 : 07:25:35
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| Do you live in a climate that requires burial of a pressure tank? Your pressure regulator may be in question here too. |
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cow_rancher
USA
1111 Posts |
Posted - 05/22/2009 : 10:01:02
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quote:
Originally posted by scrooge
I was thinking I had to buy a new pressure tank to fix the problem every 3yrs or so..Or is there a better special pressure tank to buy that would last longer??
First thing you need to do is dig up the existing tank, find out why it is waterlogged, it could be that by burying it, that it rusted out in the captive air portion of the tank and all the air leaked out. If that is the case, then by installing it in an underground vault would keep the corrision from occuring and make the tank last longer.
We assume you need to bury the tank due to freeze protection, if not then a small shed above ground is how most people keep their tanks accessable, or in their basement if you have one.
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scrooge
USA
36 Posts |
Posted - 05/22/2009 : 18:44:53
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| Waterwell illiterate here ,,If the regulator is what is hanging inside the well casing about 5ft from top of well,it was replaced, problem of surging water still exists..I live in Ohio,it gets very cold here in the winter.I have no basement,or outside heated building of anykind. So my next guess from what your suggestions are is to dig-up and replace pressure tank..RIGHT??? |
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cow_rancher
USA
1111 Posts |
Posted - 05/23/2009 : 08:03:31
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Who replaced the regulator?
I'm guessing what you are calling a regulator is really the pressure switch, it would make the clicking on and off noise, and because the tank is buried that would be the only place it could be.
Pressure regulators are not used on private well systems.
Are there electrical wires going to your regulator?
Rancher |
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scrooge
USA
36 Posts |
Posted - 05/23/2009 : 14:10:46
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quote:
Originally posted by cow_rancher
Who replaced the regulator?
I'm guessing what you are calling a regulator is really the pressure switch, it would make the clicking on and off noise, and because the tank is buried that would be the only place it could be.
Pressure regulators are not used on private well systems.
Are there electrical wires going to your regulator?
Rancher
The pressure swith is what was replaced,,I have no idea where or what the regulator is or the wiring....My brother in law said I need to get air in the pressure tank because it must have water in it and the bladder is waterlogged...!st thing I gotta do is dig the SOB up.will work on that next week weather permitting....Thanks again Cow Rancher |
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cow_rancher
USA
1111 Posts |
Posted - 05/23/2009 : 19:13:22
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Yep, dig it up, let us know what you find.
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Hidropur
Honduras
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Posted - 05/24/2009 : 16:27:56
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Scrooge,
Maybe he meant an Air Volume Regulator. This unit is used by the old type pressure tanks (galvanized tanks with No bladder). These regulators use no electricity or electrical signals therefore there's no wiring. You can't use a CSV valve with a galvanized pressure tank (some engineers call them Air Cushion Tanks).
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cow_rancher
USA
1111 Posts |
Posted - 05/25/2009 : 12:15:42
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David,
Can you use a galvanized tank buried with an AVC? How would you adjust it and where would the air go? I could under stand the sniftner valve and air makeup pipe in the well (that's where mine is) however maybe they did do that and the tank is just waterlogged and needs the AVC adjusted...
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